GOAL here in MA was nice enough to put together a facts sheet. . .
Give it a look HERE
Thursday, January 31, 2013
Feb 8 Pro Gun Protest in Boston MA
More info HERE
Folks we need a good turn out so they know we are serious. If we don't get a good crowed the news will be all over it. . . PLEASE HELP! BE THERE!
Folks we need a good turn out so they know we are serious. If we don't get a good crowed the news will be all over it. . . PLEASE HELP! BE THERE!
MSNBC Stay classy!
Hey MSNBC, way to go. Love to see that you are now covering every shooting in the country. Even better to see that you are now concerned with the 40 people killed in gun free Chicago so far this year. Nice to see you still blame guns bought in other states and outside the city for the problem. . .
I agree on that one. . . you see the Fed is even admitting that Mexican drug gangs are active in every city in the country and a major source of violent crime as they fight turf wars. They are running military grade guns into our cities to do this. . . not guns bought in the USA by legal means, but the kind of guns we gave the Mexican Government that troops are stealing and selling to the drug lords. . . then you also have the guns that Obama ran to them with Fast and Furious. . . oh, but you still won't investigate that will you. . . .
Gun control has failed and we all know it. Gun control is unconstitutional and we all know that too. . . nice to see you are doing your job and running cover for Obama instead of pushing for a real fix.
If you were doing your job we would be seeing you pushing for the end to gun control, the end to gun free zones, calling for action against the drug war and gangs and closing our borders. . . but no, you don't really want to fix things, you want to play politics.
Thanks a lot. Thank GOD for the Internet or we would never know the real facts.
I agree on that one. . . you see the Fed is even admitting that Mexican drug gangs are active in every city in the country and a major source of violent crime as they fight turf wars. They are running military grade guns into our cities to do this. . . not guns bought in the USA by legal means, but the kind of guns we gave the Mexican Government that troops are stealing and selling to the drug lords. . . then you also have the guns that Obama ran to them with Fast and Furious. . . oh, but you still won't investigate that will you. . . .
Gun control has failed and we all know it. Gun control is unconstitutional and we all know that too. . . nice to see you are doing your job and running cover for Obama instead of pushing for a real fix.
If you were doing your job we would be seeing you pushing for the end to gun control, the end to gun free zones, calling for action against the drug war and gangs and closing our borders. . . but no, you don't really want to fix things, you want to play politics.
Thanks a lot. Thank GOD for the Internet or we would never know the real facts.
Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Dear Gabby Gifford -
Your being shot was a tragedy, it does not make you a gun expert.
It disgusts me to watch you testify in front of Congress to take away our civil rights because you think you are an expert. Stop playing on your injury to make up for lack of facts or knowledge about gun control and it's failure.
No, Mag limits would not have changed the outcome, no, he would still have gotten the guns with background checks because we need them NOW to buy a gun from an FFL. Anyone that sold him a gun as a prohibited person broke the law as they stand TODAY!. . .
Stop lying to people and telling them things would be different when you don't know that and you can't prove anything they are trying to pass would do a DAMN thing to have prevented your shooting,
What might have stopped it would have been better mental health care, but that is not what they are asking us for, they want our rights with no proof or facts to show anything they are taking from us would have prevented any of these shootings.
In fact you can show that what they are asking for would NOT have changed a think. . . They already have an assault weapons ban in CT. Shooting people is already illegal, stealing guns is already illegal. Selling a gun to a known prohibited person is illegal. Buying a gun for someone so they can avoid the background check is illegal. . . .. taking a gun to a school is ILLEGAL. . .
YOU DON'T GET IT DO YOU? You don't even know what laws are on the books! ENOUGH!
You want to fix this then get behind the folks that want to end gun free (Victim Disarmament) zones where all but one of the shootings has occurred in the last 50 years. . .
Go after your fellow DEMOCRATS that run the cities where most of kids (GANG MEMBERS) are being killed by violent crime and have them fix the economy, get these kids jobs, end the drug war and end gangs. . . .
You can not have my rights as punishment for something I did not do. Suck it up and either help us fix it or get out of the damn way!
It disgusts me to watch you testify in front of Congress to take away our civil rights because you think you are an expert. Stop playing on your injury to make up for lack of facts or knowledge about gun control and it's failure.
No, Mag limits would not have changed the outcome, no, he would still have gotten the guns with background checks because we need them NOW to buy a gun from an FFL. Anyone that sold him a gun as a prohibited person broke the law as they stand TODAY!. . .
Stop lying to people and telling them things would be different when you don't know that and you can't prove anything they are trying to pass would do a DAMN thing to have prevented your shooting,
What might have stopped it would have been better mental health care, but that is not what they are asking us for, they want our rights with no proof or facts to show anything they are taking from us would have prevented any of these shootings.
In fact you can show that what they are asking for would NOT have changed a think. . . They already have an assault weapons ban in CT. Shooting people is already illegal, stealing guns is already illegal. Selling a gun to a known prohibited person is illegal. Buying a gun for someone so they can avoid the background check is illegal. . . .. taking a gun to a school is ILLEGAL. . .
YOU DON'T GET IT DO YOU? You don't even know what laws are on the books! ENOUGH!
You want to fix this then get behind the folks that want to end gun free (Victim Disarmament) zones where all but one of the shootings has occurred in the last 50 years. . .
Go after your fellow DEMOCRATS that run the cities where most of kids (GANG MEMBERS) are being killed by violent crime and have them fix the economy, get these kids jobs, end the drug war and end gangs. . . .
You can not have my rights as punishment for something I did not do. Suck it up and either help us fix it or get out of the damn way!
Gun Licenses up in MA
Patriot Ledger is reporting that gun licenses are up in MA . . . a 27% increase since 2008. . . .
Now if these folks would be active we may actually keep our rights in this state.
They report the class A or concealed carry permit is the one on the way up. More and more folks in this blue state are realizing they need to exercise their rights or lose them. . .
This increase has been state wide and for mace and FID cards also. But more and more folks want their carry permit.
This is good. Now we need them to let their reps know that they expect their rights to be protected and that they will not tolerate any new gun laws in this already insainly restrictive state.
We have the toughest gun laws in the nation and their answer to the failure of gun control is always do it again only harder. . .
Gun control is a failure, and we need to make sure every politician knows we know that. We don't want more gun control we want them to FIX THE PROBLEM - they need to attack gangs, drugs, and inner city poverty if they really want to do something to fix the violent crime issue.
Now if these folks would be active we may actually keep our rights in this state.
They report the class A or concealed carry permit is the one on the way up. More and more folks in this blue state are realizing they need to exercise their rights or lose them. . .
This increase has been state wide and for mace and FID cards also. But more and more folks want their carry permit.
This is good. Now we need them to let their reps know that they expect their rights to be protected and that they will not tolerate any new gun laws in this already insainly restrictive state.
We have the toughest gun laws in the nation and their answer to the failure of gun control is always do it again only harder. . .
Gun control is a failure, and we need to make sure every politician knows we know that. We don't want more gun control we want them to FIX THE PROBLEM - they need to attack gangs, drugs, and inner city poverty if they really want to do something to fix the violent crime issue.
Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Parent of Shooting Victim Heckled?
No, it is media bias. . .
Don't believe me then go see the film for yourself HERE
This parent has every right in the world to speak his mind to the commission on the shooting. When he turns and asks the audience a question they now have the right to answer him. . . .
And they did and they tried to be respectful of him.
My experience with gun owners is they are well educated, respectful of all if shown respect, and they will support your rights to not own a gun as long as you don't try to take their right to own one away. The ones I know are very pro Constitution, pro civil rights, pro personal rights, most are pro gay rights. . . any right that does not impose your will on anyone else they tend to support. . .
Thank God we have the internet to check on the Media with. Our main stream media lost it's way long ago. They are no longer the watchdog of the government but now actively take sides. . . this is too bad, and it is why they are losing credibility.
Don't believe me then go see the film for yourself HERE
This parent has every right in the world to speak his mind to the commission on the shooting. When he turns and asks the audience a question they now have the right to answer him. . . .
And they did and they tried to be respectful of him.
My experience with gun owners is they are well educated, respectful of all if shown respect, and they will support your rights to not own a gun as long as you don't try to take their right to own one away. The ones I know are very pro Constitution, pro civil rights, pro personal rights, most are pro gay rights. . . any right that does not impose your will on anyone else they tend to support. . .
Thank God we have the internet to check on the Media with. Our main stream media lost it's way long ago. They are no longer the watchdog of the government but now actively take sides. . . this is too bad, and it is why they are losing credibility.
Monday, January 28, 2013
If you live in Nevada
It is time to drop a note to Harry Reid and let him know you expect him to support our civil rights.
Why he is even letting this insane bill come to a vote is beyond me! Tell Sen Reid he took an oath to uphold our Constitution and you expect him to honor it.
Feinstein is a traitor to her oath and now she thinks she can pass this mess?
Time to call and send those emails folks. . . Make sure Reid knows this will cost him the next election. . . .
Why he is even letting this insane bill come to a vote is beyond me! Tell Sen Reid he took an oath to uphold our Constitution and you expect him to honor it.
Feinstein is a traitor to her oath and now she thinks she can pass this mess?
Time to call and send those emails folks. . . Make sure Reid knows this will cost him the next election. . . .
Friday, January 25, 2013
Electoral College change?
Hey GOP
You want to mess with the Electoral Colleges to rig things your way????
NO.
How about you start acting like conservatives instead of Democrat Lite for a change. . . May get you a win for once. . . .
You want to mess with the Electoral Colleges to rig things your way????
NO.
How about you start acting like conservatives instead of Democrat Lite for a change. . . May get you a win for once. . . .
Mass Gun Permit Procedure. . .
Thanks to GOAL here is a basic outline of what it takes to get a handgun in MA. . . Now on top of these 33 steps please know that we have four levels of permit here.
The top three (A, B , FID) are all $100, not sure about the bottom one (FID Restricted) but I think that is only $25: Need to renew every 6 years.
Class A - All handguns, all rifles/shotguns, Ammunition, mace, pepper spray and ability carry concealed. - MAY ISSUE
Class B - Non large capacity hand guns, all rifles and shotguns, Ammunition, mace, pepper spray NO ability carry concealed. - MAY ISSUE
FID - non large capacity rifles and shotguns, Ammunition, mace, pepper spray NO ability carry concealed. - Shall Issue
FID Restriced - Mace and Pepper spray only
May Issue = up to the police chief. I live in a great town that respects our rights, we get permits. . . Boston not so much, no permits without connections. . .
We also have an assault weapons ban in place and 10 rd limit in any new mags. . . Thanks to the two pistol rosters noted below we can not buy many new handguns, but the cops are exempt. . .
And they think we need more laws on top of all this. . . and they wonder why we say NO? FYI in the last 15 years gun crime has gone UP 200% on top of this. . . ya, real success story in MA folks .. . .
The top three (A, B , FID) are all $100, not sure about the bottom one (FID Restricted) but I think that is only $25: Need to renew every 6 years.
Class A - All handguns, all rifles/shotguns, Ammunition, mace, pepper spray and ability carry concealed. - MAY ISSUE
Class B - Non large capacity hand guns, all rifles and shotguns, Ammunition, mace, pepper spray NO ability carry concealed. - MAY ISSUE
FID - non large capacity rifles and shotguns, Ammunition, mace, pepper spray NO ability carry concealed. - Shall Issue
FID Restriced - Mace and Pepper spray only
May Issue = up to the police chief. I live in a great town that respects our rights, we get permits. . . Boston not so much, no permits without connections. . .
We also have an assault weapons ban in place and 10 rd limit in any new mags. . . Thanks to the two pistol rosters noted below we can not buy many new handguns, but the cops are exempt. . .
And they think we need more laws on top of all this. . . and they wonder why we say NO? FYI in the last 15 years gun crime has gone UP 200% on top of this. . . ya, real success story in MA folks .. . .
For the record, the
following is the procedure for a resident to lawfully
purchase a handgun
through a licensed firearm dealer in Massachusetts. (From GOAL)
1) A citizen must first take firearm safety course that
has been approved by the state police – Chapter140, Section 131P.
2) The citizen must file an application with their local
licensing authority together with a course
certificate. The application includes the applicants
personal information and asks the following
questions under penalty of law:
a) Are you a citizen of the United
States?
b) Have you ever used or been known by another name?
c) What is your age?
d) Have you ever been convicted of a felony?
e) Have you ever been convicted of the unlawful use, possession, or sale of a narcotic or harmfuldrugs as defined in M.G.L. c. 94C sec.1?
f) Have you ever been convicted of a crime punishable by incarceration by more than 1 year?
g) In any state or federal jurisdiction have you ever been convicted as an adult or adjudicated a youthful offender or delinquent child for the commission of a felony, a misdemeanor punishable for more than 2 years, a violent crime as defined in MGL C140.s121, a violation of any law regulating the use, possession, ownership, sale, transfer, rental, receipt or transportation of weapons or ammunition for which a term of imprisonment may be imposed or a violation of any law regulations the use, possession or sale of controlled substances as defined in section 1 of MGL 94C?
h) Have you ever been confined to any hospital or institution for mental illness?
i) Are you or have you ever been under treatment for or confinement for drug addiction or habitual drunkenness?
j) Have you ever appeared in any court as a defendant for any criminal offense (excluding
non-criminal traffic offense)?
k) Are you now or have you ever been the subject of MGL C209A restraining order or involved in a domestic violence charge?
l) Has any License to Carry Firearms, Permit to Purchase Firearms or Firearms Identification Card issued under the laws of any state or territory ever been suspended, revoked or denied?
m) Are you currently the subject of any outstanding arrest warrants in any state or federal
jurisdiction?
n) Other than Massachusetts, in what state, territory or jurisdiction have you resided?
o) Have you ever held a License to Carry in any other state, territory or jurisdiction?
b) Have you ever used or been known by another name?
c) What is your age?
d) Have you ever been convicted of a felony?
e) Have you ever been convicted of the unlawful use, possession, or sale of a narcotic or harmfuldrugs as defined in M.G.L. c. 94C sec.1?
f) Have you ever been convicted of a crime punishable by incarceration by more than 1 year?
g) In any state or federal jurisdiction have you ever been convicted as an adult or adjudicated a youthful offender or delinquent child for the commission of a felony, a misdemeanor punishable for more than 2 years, a violent crime as defined in MGL C140.s121, a violation of any law regulating the use, possession, ownership, sale, transfer, rental, receipt or transportation of weapons or ammunition for which a term of imprisonment may be imposed or a violation of any law regulations the use, possession or sale of controlled substances as defined in section 1 of MGL 94C?
h) Have you ever been confined to any hospital or institution for mental illness?
i) Are you or have you ever been under treatment for or confinement for drug addiction or habitual drunkenness?
j) Have you ever appeared in any court as a defendant for any criminal offense (excluding
non-criminal traffic offense)?
k) Are you now or have you ever been the subject of MGL C209A restraining order or involved in a domestic violence charge?
l) Has any License to Carry Firearms, Permit to Purchase Firearms or Firearms Identification Card issued under the laws of any state or territory ever been suspended, revoked or denied?
m) Are you currently the subject of any outstanding arrest warrants in any state or federal
jurisdiction?
n) Other than Massachusetts, in what state, territory or jurisdiction have you resided?
o) Have you ever held a License to Carry in any other state, territory or jurisdiction?
3) The applicant is required to pay a $100 application
fee. The fee is nonrefundable in the case of a denial or the issuance of a
restricted license.
4) During the application process, the applicant will be
fingerprinted and photographed.
5) In many cases the applicant will be subject to an
interview with the local licensing authority.
6) Many local authorities add provisions to the state’s
application process. These include supplying letters of reference, doctor’s
letters, mandatory club memberships, etc.
7) Once an application has been submitted, the local
licensing authority will forward one copy of the application and one copy of
the applicant's fingerprints to the colonel of state police.
8) The colonel shall conduct a background check on the
applicant utilizing files maintained by the department of probation and statewide
and nationwide criminal justice, warrant and protection order information
systems and files including, but not limited to, the National Instant Criminal
Background Check System and the department of mental health.
9) The colonel shall notify the licensing authority of
any automatic disqualifications. Those include:
a) has, in any state or federal
jurisdiction, been convicted or adjudicated a youthful offender or delinquent child for the commission of
(a) a felony; (b) a misdemeanor punishable by
imprisonment for more than two years;
(c) a violent crime as defined in section 121; (d) a violation of any law
regulating the use, possession, ownership, transfer, purchase, sale, lease,
rental, receipt or transportation of weapons or ammunition for which a term of
imprisonment may be imposed; or (e) a violation of any law regulating the use,
possession or sale of controlled substances as defined in section 1 of chapter
94C;
b) has been confined to any hospital
or institution for mental illness, unless the applicant submits with his
application an affidavit of a registered physician attesting that such
physician is familiar with the applicant's mental illness and that in such
physician's opinion the applicant is not disabled by such an illness in a
manner that should prevent such applicant from possessing a firearm;
c) is or has been under treatment for
or confinement for drug addiction or habitual drunkenness, unless such applicant is deemed to be
cured of such condition by a licensed physician, and such applicant may make
application for such license after the expiration of five years from the date
of such confinement or treatment and upon presentment of an affidavit issued by
such physician stating that such physician knows the applicant's history of
treatment and that in such physician's opinion the applicant is deemed cured;
d) is at the time of the application
less than 21 years of age;
e) is an alien;
f) is currently subject to: (A) an
order for suspension or surrender issued pursuant to section 3B or 3C of chapter 209A or a similar order
issued by another jurisdiction; or (B) a permanent or temporary protection order issued
pursuant to chapter 209A or a similar order issued by another jurisdiction; or
g) is currently the subject of an
outstanding arrest warrant in any state or federal jurisdiction.
10) Regardless of the lack of any disqualifiers, the
local authority may deny a license if they deem the applicant to be “unsuitable”.
There is no statutory standard for this term.
11) The local licensing authority may also arbitrarily
downgrade the license to a Class B that prohibits the possession of large
capacity handguns and prohibits concealed carry.
12) The local licensing authority may also add arbitrary
restrictions that are not defined in statute or regulations such as “Target and
Hunting Only”.
13) If a license is issued it shall be revoked or
suspended upon the occurrence of any event that would have disqualified the
holder from being issued such license.
14) The licensing process can take anywhere from a month
to a year. (Statute requires 40 days, but is seldom complied with.)
15) If a license is issued, the license holder may then
seek out a handgun that meet the restrictions, if any, placed on their license.
16) The handgun that is to be purchased must meet the
manufacturing requirements of Massachusetts Attorney General Regulations 940
CMR 16.00. The office of the Attorney General does not certify any handgun as
meeting the regulations. Manufacturers and licensed dealers must make that determination
at their own risk. The Office also does not recognize the “Approved Firearms
Roster”.
17) The handgun that is to be purchased must also meet
the manufacturing requirements of MGL Chapter 140, Section 123. The Secretary
of Public Safety publishes the “Approved Firearms Roster” for handguns that
have passed the manufacturing standards tests. (These regulations and laws greatly
restrict the makes and models of handguns that can legally be sold in
Massachusetts. Massachusetts remains the only state in the nation where a
lawfully licensed citizen cannot purchase a single shot Olympic target pistol.)
18) The handgun must also meet the requirements of MGL
Chapter 140, Section 131M which bans the possession, sale or transfer of
certain large capacity magazines not lawfully owned prior to September 13,
1994.
19) If the handgun to be purchased is owned by a private
citizen or a federally licensed dealer (18 U.S. Code 923) in another state, the
handgun must be transferred to a licensed dealer in the state of Massachusetts.
20) The Massachusetts dealer must be licensed under
federal law (18 U.S. Code 923) and state law (Chapter 140, Section 122).
21) Once in possession of the handgun the Massachusetts
licensed dealer must record the information about the gun in their permanent
Bound Book (Bound Book - 27 CFR 178.125).
22) The proposed Massachusetts buyer must then appear in
person to the Massachusetts Dealer and present their valid License to Carry a
firearm together with other personal identification.
23) The buyer must complete a federal form ATF 4473. This
form asks for the personal information of the potential buyer. The potential
buyer must also answer and sign under penalty of law the following questions:
a) Are you the actual transferee/buyer
of the firearm listed on the form?
b) Are you under indictment or
information in any court for a felony, or any other crime, for which the judge
could imprison you for more than one year?
c) Have you ever been convicted in any
court of a felony, or any other crime, for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more
than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?
d) Are you a fugitive of justice?
e) Are you an unlawful user of, or
addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any
other controlled substance?
f) Have you ever been adjudicated
mentally defective or have you ever been committed to a mental institution?
g) Have you ever been discharged from
the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions?
h) Are you subject to a court order
restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an
intimate partner or child of such partner?
i) Have you ever been convicted in any
court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence?
j) Have you ever renounced your United
States citizenship?
k) Are you a nonimmigrant alien?
24) The dealer must also fill out a state form FA-10
which contains the information of the seller/dealer, the buyer and a
description of the firearm. The form must then be signed by the purchaser.
25) If more than one handgun is being purchased within a
five day period, the dealer is required to fill out BATFE Form 3310.4 and
submit a copy to the BATFE and the state agency in charge of licensing before
the close of business on the day of the second sale.
26) The dealer must then conduct a background check on
the proposed buyer through the National Instant Checks System.
27) The National Instant Check System can delay, deny, or
approve a sale/transfer. If a sale/transfer is delayed or denied the licensed
dealer is not informed as to why.
28) If the dealer is equipped with the new Massachusetts
Instant Records Checks System (MIRCS), the buyer must submit to a digital scan
and recognition of their fingerprint.
29) If all the checks have passed, the dealer must
instruct the buyer on the safe use and operation of the firearm.
30) The dealer must also provide a tamper resistant
mechanical locking device that has been approved by the Colonel of the
Massachusetts State Police when selling/transferring handguns or large capacity
long guns.
31) If all of the above steps are met, the transaction
may take place.
32) Once the license holder leaves with the firearm it
must be transported home in accordance with the state laws regarding the
transportation of firearms Chapter 140, Section 131C. The firearm must be under
the direct control of the license holder or the firearm must be unloaded and
contained within the locked trunk or in a locked case or other secure
container.
33) Once the license holder has the firearm in their home
they must store firearm in accordance with Chapter 140, 131L. A firearm that is
not under the direct control of the license holder must be stored in a locked
container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety
device.
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